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    sof
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    After searching around for white pants and white shirts I came across this shop which sells these and are very comfortable and VERY reasonably priced. The shop can be found here  – https://www.facebook.com/Yak-Yeti-Brisbane-318662928150758/

    The pants are known as fisherman’s/yoga/mediation style and one size fits all, the shirts have nice vertical stripes, which are gender neutral. They are both 100% cotton. Here is an image of them. The pants ‘wrap’ around you and is then tied to at the front (the image shows them looking at the back of them). They even have a handy pocket.

    White Shirt & Pants

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    David P
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    Hi Sofios, do you know if their clothes are made under ethical conditions (i.e. not a sweat shop)?

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    sof
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    That is a good question to ask the retailer, which I will and get back to you.

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    sof
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    Hi David

    Here is an update on question poised on these clothes.

    I rang the retailer and they said that the manufacturer of these clothes has a good reputation and has been in business for around 30 years, and that these garments are ethically sourced (made in India and Bali). I have known this retailer for many years and they come across as a genuine individual.

    When I asked, they were more than happy for me to call the manufacturer directly. Speaking to them, I was guaranteed that there is no child labour in the production process, only a team of 25-30 adults who work on these products (just like in any typical clothing factory).

    The way both of these sources spoke to me gave the indication that they were being honest and truthful, and had nothing to hide, as they didn’t try to dismiss or divert my questions.

    I trust that this answers your question sufficiently.

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    David P
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    Thanks for checking into that Sof. From what you’ve said I’m still kind of wondering though whether the conditions of the employment for the adult workers is good i.e. do they get a decent enough wage for the hours they work, and are they expected to do long shifts everyday etc.

    Unfortunately the “typical clothing factory” in 3rd world countries isn’t all that good and I would not expect those ones to be upfront about the real conditions if speaking to them on the phone and the retailer may not be any the wiser . Maybe this one is fine. How do you really know? Except for actually going there, I don’t know.  Has the retailer actually been there?

    A good documentary to see is about the “fast fashion” industry and the 3rd world factories and cotton farms behind it, it is called The True Cost

    The price of clothing has been decreasing for decades, while the human and environmental costs have grown dramatically.

     

    #22729

    Sof
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    It is an interesting doco you linked David. Unfortunately I am none the wiser about the ‘actual‘ working conditions from where these clothes are actually made, as the retailer might not know themselves. I guess the cost for items is a good indicator of how they are made (cheaper labour would seem to keep the costs down for shop retailers). The same would go for expensive products from well known brands such as ‘Nike’, where the cost of the products are still ‘high’ but labour as cheap as possible. A simple case of ‘out of sight – out of mind‘.

    On a side note, I have known for a while that the working conditions in Apple factories (in China), which produces products like iPads, iPhones, etc…are renown for enforcing cheap labour, where suicide rates are high due to expected long working hours. Unfortunately their products are the most expensive you can buy on the market today. There are photos showing high-rise factory buildings with safety nets outside the windows, which have been installed to prevent workers trying to commit suicide.

    Based upon the topic of working conditions, I would assume that the majority of material goods we see in stores today, are subject to harsh working conditions if they are manufactured in 3rd world parts of the world.

    It is so unfortunate that this is all considered ‘normal‘ in the world we live in. There is so much to see internally from the state of the world today and it is easy to appreciate why/how we got to this point (greed, hate, jealously, egos, etc…).

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    Ella
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    Interesting discussion you’ve got going here. While it does seem that it’s very hard to extract ourselves from the unjust labour market that is the global economy, (you’d basically have to stop using most supermarkets or buying any clothes that weren’t locally or ethically made, and I have no idea about technology like phones and laptops) I have been paying more attention to the items that I buy for the ceremonies as I feel that I want them to be more ‘energetically pristine’. Or at least, avoiding things manufactured outside of Europe (though I don’t know where they get their materials from). It’s a hard thing though … you could say that the people working night-shifts in a supermarket are working in inhumane conditions; it can certainly seem that way when you look at it from a higher perspective. Are they being forced?

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